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Wednesday, March 21, 2012

Location of MDF / LDF / Backup / Log

For a finance application, we use a Windows 2003 Server
with C and D are local HD (They are mirrored as RAID 1).
On the other hand, it is connected to a SAN with drive
letter J.
We find that the consultant has installed the SQLS Server
2000 DB MDF and LDF in the D drive. The finance
application is installed on the J drive.
We will backup both C,D and J drive daily. They haven't
setup the database maintenance plan yet.
For both performance purpose, we would like to get your
advie where is the best place to put the backup files and
log files ? Is it D or J drive ? Should we suggest them
to put the transaction log file from D to J as well ?
Thank you for your advice
Stephen wrote:
> For a finance application, we use a Windows 2003 Server
> with C and D are local HD (They are mirrored as RAID 1).
> On the other hand, it is connected to a SAN with drive
> letter J.
> We find that the consultant has installed the SQLS Server
> 2000 DB MDF and LDF in the D drive. The finance
> application is installed on the J drive.
> We will backup both C,D and J drive daily. They haven't
> setup the database maintenance plan yet.
> For both performance purpose, we would like to get your
> advie where is the best place to put the backup files and
> log files ? Is it D or J drive ? Should we suggest them
> to put the transaction log file from D to J as well ?
> Thank you for your advice
If you've paid for a SAN, it seems silly not use it for the data and
t-logs. Are you saying that C is a mirrored set and drive D is a
mirrored set (so that makes four local hard drives)? You don't have to
back up the drives themselves for SQL Server backup and recovery. What
you need to back up are the full, differential, and t-log backups you
make throughout the day. Generally, you want to put the backup files on
different spindles than the drive on which the data originates to
maximize bandwidth. So if the data is on the SAN, you can back up to one
of the local arrays.
David Gugick
Quest Software
www.imceda.com
www.quest.com
|||Dear David,
Thank you for your advice. Yes, both C and D are mirrored set.
Someone suggest to put the transaction log file in the RAID 1 for recovery
and data in RAID 5. Is it OK from your point of view ?
Where should I put the backup file ? RAID 1 or RAID 5 array ?
Thanks
"David Gugick" <david.gugick-nospam@.quest.com> wrote in message
news:uqkbyWidFHA.892@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Stephen wrote:
> If you've paid for a SAN, it seems silly not use it for the data and
> t-logs. Are you saying that C is a mirrored set and drive D is a mirrored
> set (so that makes four local hard drives)? You don't have to back up the
> drives themselves for SQL Server backup and recovery. What you need to
> back up are the full, differential, and t-log backups you make throughout
> the day. Generally, you want to put the backup files on different spindles
> than the drive on which the data originates to maximize bandwidth. So if
> the data is on the SAN, you can back up to one of the local arrays.
> --
> David Gugick
> Quest Software
> www.imceda.com
> www.quest.com
|||Stephen
Most of SQL Server DBA/Programmers ( yep if the budget does not permit to
buy RAID 10&1) put the log on
RAID1 device and data on RAID-5
(this option is appropriate if the writes activites are moderate)
Note: The appropriate decision depends on your perfomance charctiristics
and fault tolerance needs.
"Stephen" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%23zfTGykdFHA.1136@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Dear David,
> Thank you for your advice. Yes, both C and D are mirrored set.
> Someone suggest to put the transaction log file in the RAID 1 for recovery
> and data in RAID 5. Is it OK from your point of view ?
> Where should I put the backup file ? RAID 1 or RAID 5 array ?
> Thanks
> "David Gugick" <david.gugick-nospam@.quest.com> wrote in message
> news:uqkbyWidFHA.892@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
mirrored[vbcol=seagreen]
the[vbcol=seagreen]
throughout[vbcol=seagreen]
spindles
>
|||Dear Uri,
Thank you for your advice. However, I am new to RAID array. I would like to
know the underlying reason to put the log on RAID 1 and data on RAID 5.
On the other hand, should we put the Database and Transaction log backup on
RAID 5 array ?
Thank you again.
"Uri Dimant" <urid@.iscar.co.il> wrote in message
news:uQhEZ3kdFHA.1136@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Stephen
> Most of SQL Server DBA/Programmers ( yep if the budget does not permit to
> buy RAID 10&1) put the log on
> RAID1 device and data on RAID-5
> (this option is appropriate if the writes activites are moderate)
>
> Note: The appropriate decision depends on your perfomance charctiristics
> and fault tolerance needs.
>
>
> "Stephen" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:%23zfTGykdFHA.1136@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> mirrored
> the
> throughout
> spindles
>
|||Stepfen
I'd recommend you buy "Inside SQL Server 2000" written by Kalen Delaney (See
topic about RAID solutions)
"Stephen" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:e2dG$6kdFHA.3040@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Dear Uri,
> Thank you for your advice. However, I am new to RAID array. I would like
to
> know the underlying reason to put the log on RAID 1 and data on RAID 5.
> On the other hand, should we put the Database and Transaction log backup
on[vbcol=seagreen]
> RAID 5 array ?
> Thank you again.
>
> "Uri Dimant" <urid@.iscar.co.il> wrote in message
> news:uQhEZ3kdFHA.1136@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
to[vbcol=seagreen]
charctiristics[vbcol=seagreen]
to
>
|||Stephen wrote:
> Dear Uri,
> Thank you for your advice. However, I am new to RAID array. I would
> like to know the underlying reason to put the log on RAID 1 and data
> on RAID 5.
> On the other hand, should we put the Database and Transaction log
> backup on RAID 5 array ?
>
I didn't think RAID 5 was one of your installed options given you only
had 4 local drives...
In any case, for small and medium sized databases with a low percentage
of writes, RAID 5 is an inexpensive solution. RAID 5 writes data very
slowly, so it's only appropriate for data files. Transaction logs and
tempdb should reside on a mirrored set (which you have). It's best for
performance to keep data and t-logs on different drives, which are also
separate from the OS. In your environment, you have a SAN (J), and 2
local mirrored sets (C and D).
I would recommend you use C for the OS and applications like SQL Server.
Use D for the t-logs and tempdb, and use the SAN for the data.
Everything needs to backed up in some fashion.
David Gugick
Quest Software
www.imceda.com
www.quest.com
|||This website has a good intro to RAID levels and the basic pros & cons
(even if they are basically trying to sell you their products):
http://www.acnc.com/raid.html
(for those that can't afford Kalen's book _Inside SQL Server_, which in
an excellent book that I thoroughly recommend)
*mike hodgson* |/ database administrator/ | mallesons stephen jaques
*T* +61 (2) 9296 3668 |* F* +61 (2) 9296 3885 |* M* +61 (408) 675 907
*E* mailto:mike.hodgson@.mallesons.nospam.com |* W* http://www.mallesons.com
Stephen wrote:

>Dear Uri,
>Thank you for your advice. However, I am new to RAID array. I would like to
>know the underlying reason to put the log on RAID 1 and data on RAID 5.
>On the other hand, should we put the Database and Transaction log backup on
>RAID 5 array ?
>Thank you again.
>
>"Uri Dimant" <urid@.iscar.co.il> wrote in message
>news:uQhEZ3kdFHA.1136@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>
>
>

Location of MDF / LDF / Backup / Log

For a finance application, we use a Windows 2003 Server
with C and D are local HD (They are mirrored as RAID 1).
On the other hand, it is connected to a SAN with drive
letter J.
We find that the consultant has installed the SQLS Server
2000 DB MDF and LDF in the D drive. The finance
application is installed on the J drive.
We will backup both C,D and J drive daily. They haven't
setup the database maintenance plan yet.
For both performance purpose, we would like to get your
advie where is the best place to put the backup files and
log files ? Is it D or J drive ? Should we suggest them
to put the transaction log file from D to J as well ?
Thank you for your adviceStephen wrote:
> For a finance application, we use a Windows 2003 Server
> with C and D are local HD (They are mirrored as RAID 1).
> On the other hand, it is connected to a SAN with drive
> letter J.
> We find that the consultant has installed the SQLS Server
> 2000 DB MDF and LDF in the D drive. The finance
> application is installed on the J drive.
> We will backup both C,D and J drive daily. They haven't
> setup the database maintenance plan yet.
> For both performance purpose, we would like to get your
> advie where is the best place to put the backup files and
> log files ? Is it D or J drive ? Should we suggest them
> to put the transaction log file from D to J as well ?
> Thank you for your advice
If you've paid for a SAN, it seems silly not use it for the data and
t-logs. Are you saying that C is a mirrored set and drive D is a
mirrored set (so that makes four local hard drives)? You don't have to
back up the drives themselves for SQL Server backup and recovery. What
you need to back up are the full, differential, and t-log backups you
make throughout the day. Generally, you want to put the backup files on
different spindles than the drive on which the data originates to
maximize bandwidth. So if the data is on the SAN, you can back up to one
of the local arrays.
--
David Gugick
Quest Software
www.imceda.com
www.quest.com|||Dear David,
Thank you for your advice. Yes, both C and D are mirrored set.
Someone suggest to put the transaction log file in the RAID 1 for recovery
and data in RAID 5. Is it OK from your point of view ?
Where should I put the backup file ? RAID 1 or RAID 5 array ?
Thanks
"David Gugick" <david.gugick-nospam@.quest.com> wrote in message
news:uqkbyWidFHA.892@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Stephen wrote:
>> For a finance application, we use a Windows 2003 Server
>> with C and D are local HD (They are mirrored as RAID 1).
>> On the other hand, it is connected to a SAN with drive
>> letter J.
>> We find that the consultant has installed the SQLS Server
>> 2000 DB MDF and LDF in the D drive. The finance
>> application is installed on the J drive.
>> We will backup both C,D and J drive daily. They haven't
>> setup the database maintenance plan yet.
>> For both performance purpose, we would like to get your
>> advie where is the best place to put the backup files and
>> log files ? Is it D or J drive ? Should we suggest them
>> to put the transaction log file from D to J as well ?
>> Thank you for your advice
> If you've paid for a SAN, it seems silly not use it for the data and
> t-logs. Are you saying that C is a mirrored set and drive D is a mirrored
> set (so that makes four local hard drives)? You don't have to back up the
> drives themselves for SQL Server backup and recovery. What you need to
> back up are the full, differential, and t-log backups you make throughout
> the day. Generally, you want to put the backup files on different spindles
> than the drive on which the data originates to maximize bandwidth. So if
> the data is on the SAN, you can back up to one of the local arrays.
> --
> David Gugick
> Quest Software
> www.imceda.com
> www.quest.com|||Stephen
Most of SQL Server DBA/Programmers ( yep if the budget does not permit to
buy RAID 10&1) put the log on
RAID1 device and data on RAID-5
(this option is appropriate if the writes activites are moderate)
Note: The appropriate decision depends on your perfomance charctiristics
and fault tolerance needs.
"Stephen" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%23zfTGykdFHA.1136@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Dear David,
> Thank you for your advice. Yes, both C and D are mirrored set.
> Someone suggest to put the transaction log file in the RAID 1 for recovery
> and data in RAID 5. Is it OK from your point of view ?
> Where should I put the backup file ? RAID 1 or RAID 5 array ?
> Thanks
> "David Gugick" <david.gugick-nospam@.quest.com> wrote in message
> news:uqkbyWidFHA.892@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Stephen wrote:
> >> For a finance application, we use a Windows 2003 Server
> >> with C and D are local HD (They are mirrored as RAID 1).
> >> On the other hand, it is connected to a SAN with drive
> >> letter J.
> >>
> >> We find that the consultant has installed the SQLS Server
> >> 2000 DB MDF and LDF in the D drive. The finance
> >> application is installed on the J drive.
> >>
> >> We will backup both C,D and J drive daily. They haven't
> >> setup the database maintenance plan yet.
> >>
> >> For both performance purpose, we would like to get your
> >> advie where is the best place to put the backup files and
> >> log files ? Is it D or J drive ? Should we suggest them
> >> to put the transaction log file from D to J as well ?
> >>
> >> Thank you for your advice
> >
> > If you've paid for a SAN, it seems silly not use it for the data and
> > t-logs. Are you saying that C is a mirrored set and drive D is a
mirrored
> > set (so that makes four local hard drives)? You don't have to back up
the
> > drives themselves for SQL Server backup and recovery. What you need to
> > back up are the full, differential, and t-log backups you make
throughout
> > the day. Generally, you want to put the backup files on different
spindles
> > than the drive on which the data originates to maximize bandwidth. So if
> > the data is on the SAN, you can back up to one of the local arrays.
> >
> > --
> > David Gugick
> > Quest Software
> > www.imceda.com
> > www.quest.com
>|||Dear Uri,
Thank you for your advice. However, I am new to RAID array. I would like to
know the underlying reason to put the log on RAID 1 and data on RAID 5.
On the other hand, should we put the Database and Transaction log backup on
RAID 5 array ?
Thank you again.
"Uri Dimant" <urid@.iscar.co.il> wrote in message
news:uQhEZ3kdFHA.1136@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Stephen
> Most of SQL Server DBA/Programmers ( yep if the budget does not permit to
> buy RAID 10&1) put the log on
> RAID1 device and data on RAID-5
> (this option is appropriate if the writes activites are moderate)
>
> Note: The appropriate decision depends on your perfomance charctiristics
> and fault tolerance needs.
>
>
> "Stephen" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:%23zfTGykdFHA.1136@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Dear David,
>> Thank you for your advice. Yes, both C and D are mirrored set.
>> Someone suggest to put the transaction log file in the RAID 1 for
>> recovery
>> and data in RAID 5. Is it OK from your point of view ?
>> Where should I put the backup file ? RAID 1 or RAID 5 array ?
>> Thanks
>> "David Gugick" <david.gugick-nospam@.quest.com> wrote in message
>> news:uqkbyWidFHA.892@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> > Stephen wrote:
>> >> For a finance application, we use a Windows 2003 Server
>> >> with C and D are local HD (They are mirrored as RAID 1).
>> >> On the other hand, it is connected to a SAN with drive
>> >> letter J.
>> >>
>> >> We find that the consultant has installed the SQLS Server
>> >> 2000 DB MDF and LDF in the D drive. The finance
>> >> application is installed on the J drive.
>> >>
>> >> We will backup both C,D and J drive daily. They haven't
>> >> setup the database maintenance plan yet.
>> >>
>> >> For both performance purpose, we would like to get your
>> >> advie where is the best place to put the backup files and
>> >> log files ? Is it D or J drive ? Should we suggest them
>> >> to put the transaction log file from D to J as well ?
>> >>
>> >> Thank you for your advice
>> >
>> > If you've paid for a SAN, it seems silly not use it for the data and
>> > t-logs. Are you saying that C is a mirrored set and drive D is a
> mirrored
>> > set (so that makes four local hard drives)? You don't have to back up
> the
>> > drives themselves for SQL Server backup and recovery. What you need to
>> > back up are the full, differential, and t-log backups you make
> throughout
>> > the day. Generally, you want to put the backup files on different
> spindles
>> > than the drive on which the data originates to maximize bandwidth. So
>> > if
>> > the data is on the SAN, you can back up to one of the local arrays.
>> >
>> > --
>> > David Gugick
>> > Quest Software
>> > www.imceda.com
>> > www.quest.com
>>
>|||Stepfen
I'd recommend you buy "Inside SQL Server 2000" written by Kalen Delaney (See
topic about RAID solutions)
"Stephen" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:e2dG$6kdFHA.3040@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Dear Uri,
> Thank you for your advice. However, I am new to RAID array. I would like
to
> know the underlying reason to put the log on RAID 1 and data on RAID 5.
> On the other hand, should we put the Database and Transaction log backup
on
> RAID 5 array ?
> Thank you again.
>
> "Uri Dimant" <urid@.iscar.co.il> wrote in message
> news:uQhEZ3kdFHA.1136@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Stephen
> > Most of SQL Server DBA/Programmers ( yep if the budget does not permit
to
> > buy RAID 10&1) put the log on
> > RAID1 device and data on RAID-5
> > (this option is appropriate if the writes activites are moderate)
> >
> >
> >
> > Note: The appropriate decision depends on your perfomance
charctiristics
> > and fault tolerance needs.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Stephen" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23zfTGykdFHA.1136@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> Dear David,
> >>
> >> Thank you for your advice. Yes, both C and D are mirrored set.
> >>
> >> Someone suggest to put the transaction log file in the RAID 1 for
> >> recovery
> >> and data in RAID 5. Is it OK from your point of view ?
> >>
> >> Where should I put the backup file ? RAID 1 or RAID 5 array ?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> "David Gugick" <david.gugick-nospam@.quest.com> wrote in message
> >> news:uqkbyWidFHA.892@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> > Stephen wrote:
> >> >> For a finance application, we use a Windows 2003 Server
> >> >> with C and D are local HD (They are mirrored as RAID 1).
> >> >> On the other hand, it is connected to a SAN with drive
> >> >> letter J.
> >> >>
> >> >> We find that the consultant has installed the SQLS Server
> >> >> 2000 DB MDF and LDF in the D drive. The finance
> >> >> application is installed on the J drive.
> >> >>
> >> >> We will backup both C,D and J drive daily. They haven't
> >> >> setup the database maintenance plan yet.
> >> >>
> >> >> For both performance purpose, we would like to get your
> >> >> advie where is the best place to put the backup files and
> >> >> log files ? Is it D or J drive ? Should we suggest them
> >> >> to put the transaction log file from D to J as well ?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you for your advice
> >> >
> >> > If you've paid for a SAN, it seems silly not use it for the data and
> >> > t-logs. Are you saying that C is a mirrored set and drive D is a
> > mirrored
> >> > set (so that makes four local hard drives)? You don't have to back up
> > the
> >> > drives themselves for SQL Server backup and recovery. What you need
to
> >> > back up are the full, differential, and t-log backups you make
> > throughout
> >> > the day. Generally, you want to put the backup files on different
> > spindles
> >> > than the drive on which the data originates to maximize bandwidth. So
> >> > if
> >> > the data is on the SAN, you can back up to one of the local arrays.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > David Gugick
> >> > Quest Software
> >> > www.imceda.com
> >> > www.quest.com
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>|||Stephen wrote:
> Dear Uri,
> Thank you for your advice. However, I am new to RAID array. I would
> like to know the underlying reason to put the log on RAID 1 and data
> on RAID 5.
> On the other hand, should we put the Database and Transaction log
> backup on RAID 5 array ?
>
I didn't think RAID 5 was one of your installed options given you only
had 4 local drives...
In any case, for small and medium sized databases with a low percentage
of writes, RAID 5 is an inexpensive solution. RAID 5 writes data very
slowly, so it's only appropriate for data files. Transaction logs and
tempdb should reside on a mirrored set (which you have). It's best for
performance to keep data and t-logs on different drives, which are also
separate from the OS. In your environment, you have a SAN (J), and 2
local mirrored sets (C and D).
I would recommend you use C for the OS and applications like SQL Server.
Use D for the t-logs and tempdb, and use the SAN for the data.
Everything needs to backed up in some fashion.
David Gugick
Quest Software
www.imceda.com
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This website has a good intro to RAID levels and the basic pros & cons
(even if they are basically trying to sell you their products):
http://www.acnc.com/raid.html
(for those that can't afford Kalen's book _Inside SQL Server_, which in
an excellent book that I thoroughly recommend)
--
*mike hodgson* |/ database administrator/ | mallesons stephen jaques
*T* +61 (2) 9296 3668 |* F* +61 (2) 9296 3885 |* M* +61 (408) 675 907
*E* mailto:mike.hodgson@.mallesons.nospam.com |* W* http://www.mallesons.com
Stephen wrote:
>Dear Uri,
>Thank you for your advice. However, I am new to RAID array. I would like to
>know the underlying reason to put the log on RAID 1 and data on RAID 5.
>On the other hand, should we put the Database and Transaction log backup on
>RAID 5 array ?
>Thank you again.
>
>"Uri Dimant" <urid@.iscar.co.il> wrote in message
>news:uQhEZ3kdFHA.1136@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>
>>Stephen
>>Most of SQL Server DBA/Programmers ( yep if the budget does not permit to
>>buy RAID 10&1) put the log on
>>RAID1 device and data on RAID-5
>>(this option is appropriate if the writes activites are moderate)
>>
>>Note: The appropriate decision depends on your perfomance charctiristics
>>and fault tolerance needs.
>>
>>
>>"Stephen" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>news:%23zfTGykdFHA.1136@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>
>>Dear David,
>>Thank you for your advice. Yes, both C and D are mirrored set.
>>Someone suggest to put the transaction log file in the RAID 1 for
>>recovery
>>and data in RAID 5. Is it OK from your point of view ?
>>Where should I put the backup file ? RAID 1 or RAID 5 array ?
>>Thanks
>>"David Gugick" <david.gugick-nospam@.quest.com> wrote in message
>>news:uqkbyWidFHA.892@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>
>>Stephen wrote:
>>
>>For a finance application, we use a Windows 2003 Server
>>with C and D are local HD (They are mirrored as RAID 1).
>>On the other hand, it is connected to a SAN with drive
>>letter J.
>>We find that the consultant has installed the SQLS Server
>>2000 DB MDF and LDF in the D drive. The finance
>>application is installed on the J drive.
>>We will backup both C,D and J drive daily. They haven't
>>setup the database maintenance plan yet.
>>For both performance purpose, we would like to get your
>>advie where is the best place to put the backup files and
>>log files ? Is it D or J drive ? Should we suggest them
>>to put the transaction log file from D to J as well ?
>>Thank you for your advice
>>
>>If you've paid for a SAN, it seems silly not use it for the data and
>>t-logs. Are you saying that C is a mirrored set and drive D is a
>>
>>mirrored
>>
>>set (so that makes four local hard drives)? You don't have to back up
>>
>>the
>>
>>drives themselves for SQL Server backup and recovery. What you need to
>>back up are the full, differential, and t-log backups you make
>>
>>throughout
>>
>>the day. Generally, you want to put the backup files on different
>>
>>spindles
>>
>>than the drive on which the data originates to maximize bandwidth. So
>>if
>>the data is on the SAN, you can back up to one of the local arrays.
>>--
>>David Gugick
>>Quest Software
>>www.imceda.com
>>www.quest.com
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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<tt>This website has a good intro to RAID levels and the basic pros
& cons (even if they are basically trying to sell you their
products):<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://links.10026.com/?link=http://www.acnc.com/raid.html</a><br>">http://www.acnc.com/raid.html">http://www.acnc.com/raid.html</a><br>
<br>
(for those that can't afford Kalen's book <u>Inside SQL Server</u>,
which in an excellent book that I thoroughly recommend)<br>
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Stephen wrote:
<blockquote cite="mide2dG$6kdFHA.3040@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Dear Uri,
Thank you for your advice. However, I am new to RAID array. I would like to
know the underlying reason to put the log on RAID 1 and data on RAID 5.
On the other hand, should we put the Database and Transaction log backup on
RAID 5 array ?
Thank you again.
"Uri Dimant" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://links.10026.com/?link=mailto:urid@.iscar.co.il"><urid@.iscar.co.il></a> wrote in message
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</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Stephen
Most of SQL Server DBA/Programmers ( yep if the budget does not permit to
buy RAID 10&1) put the log on
RAID1 device and data on RAID-5
(this option is appropriate if the writes activites are moderate)
Note: The appropriate decision depends on your perfomance charctiristics
and fault tolerance needs.
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</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Dear David,
Thank you for your advice. Yes, both C and D are mirrored set.
Someone suggest to put the transaction log file in the RAID 1 for
recovery
and data in RAID 5. Is it OK from your point of view ?
Where should I put the backup file ? RAID 1 or RAID 5 array ?
Thanks
"David Gugick" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://links.10026.com/?link=mailto:david.gugick-nospam@.quest.com"><david.gugick-nospam@.quest.com></a> wrote in message
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</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Stephen wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">For a finance application, we use a Windows 2003 Server
with C and D are local HD (They are mirrored as RAID 1).
On the other hand, it is connected to a SAN with drive
letter J.
We find that the consultant has installed the SQLS Server
2000 DB MDF and LDF in the D drive. The finance
application is installed on the J drive.
We will backup both C,D and J drive daily. They haven't
setup the database maintenance plan yet.
For both performance purpose, we would like to get your
advie where is the best place to put the backup files and
log files ? Is it D or J drive ? Should we suggest them
to put the transaction log file from D to J as well ?
Thank you for your advice
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">If you've paid for a SAN, it seems silly not use it for the data and
t-logs. Are you saying that C is a mirrored set and drive D is a
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">mirrored
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">set (so that makes four local hard drives)? You don't have to back up
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">the
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">drives themselves for SQL Server backup and recovery. What you need to
back up are the full, differential, and t-log backups you make
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">throughout
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">the day. Generally, you want to put the backup files on different
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">spindles
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">than the drive on which the data originates to maximize bandwidth. So
if
the data is on the SAN, you can back up to one of the local arrays.
--
David Gugick
Quest Software
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://links.10026.com/?link=www.quest.com</a>">http://www.quest.com">www.quest.com</a>
</pre>
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Location of MDF / LDF / Backup / Log

For a finance application, we use a Windows 2003 Server
with C and D are local HD (They are mirrored as RAID 1).
On the other hand, it is connected to a SAN with drive
letter J.
We find that the consultant has installed the SQLS Server
2000 DB MDF and LDF in the D drive. The finance
application is installed on the J drive.
We will backup both C,D and J drive daily. They haven't
setup the database maintenance plan yet.
For both performance purpose, we would like to get your
advie where is the best place to put the backup files and
log files ? Is it D or J drive ? Should we suggest them
to put the transaction log file from D to J as well ?
Thank you for your adviceStephen wrote:
> For a finance application, we use a Windows 2003 Server
> with C and D are local HD (They are mirrored as RAID 1).
> On the other hand, it is connected to a SAN with drive
> letter J.
> We find that the consultant has installed the SQLS Server
> 2000 DB MDF and LDF in the D drive. The finance
> application is installed on the J drive.
> We will backup both C,D and J drive daily. They haven't
> setup the database maintenance plan yet.
> For both performance purpose, we would like to get your
> advie where is the best place to put the backup files and
> log files ? Is it D or J drive ? Should we suggest them
> to put the transaction log file from D to J as well ?
> Thank you for your advice
If you've paid for a SAN, it seems silly not use it for the data and
t-logs. Are you saying that C is a mirrored set and drive D is a
mirrored set (so that makes four local hard drives)? You don't have to
back up the drives themselves for SQL Server backup and recovery. What
you need to back up are the full, differential, and t-log backups you
make throughout the day. Generally, you want to put the backup files on
different spindles than the drive on which the data originates to
maximize bandwidth. So if the data is on the SAN, you can back up to one
of the local arrays.
David Gugick
Quest Software
www.imceda.com
www.quest.com|||Dear David,
Thank you for your advice. Yes, both C and D are mirrored set.
Someone suggest to put the transaction log file in the RAID 1 for recovery
and data in RAID 5. Is it OK from your point of view ?
Where should I put the backup file ? RAID 1 or RAID 5 array ?
Thanks
"David Gugick" <david.gugick-nospam@.quest.com> wrote in message
news:uqkbyWidFHA.892@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Stephen wrote:
> If you've paid for a SAN, it seems silly not use it for the data and
> t-logs. Are you saying that C is a mirrored set and drive D is a mirrored
> set (so that makes four local hard drives)? You don't have to back up the
> drives themselves for SQL Server backup and recovery. What you need to
> back up are the full, differential, and t-log backups you make throughout
> the day. Generally, you want to put the backup files on different spindles
> than the drive on which the data originates to maximize bandwidth. So if
> the data is on the SAN, you can back up to one of the local arrays.
> --
> David Gugick
> Quest Software
> www.imceda.com
> www.quest.com|||Stephen
Most of SQL Server DBA/Programmers ( yep if the budget does not permit to
buy RAID 10&1) put the log on
RAID1 device and data on RAID-5
(this option is appropriate if the writes activites are moderate)
Note: The appropriate decision depends on your perfomance charctiristics
and fault tolerance needs.
"Stephen" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%23zfTGykdFHA.1136@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Dear David,
> Thank you for your advice. Yes, both C and D are mirrored set.
> Someone suggest to put the transaction log file in the RAID 1 for recovery
> and data in RAID 5. Is it OK from your point of view ?
> Where should I put the backup file ? RAID 1 or RAID 5 array ?
> Thanks
> "David Gugick" <david.gugick-nospam@.quest.com> wrote in message
> news:uqkbyWidFHA.892@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
mirrored[vbcol=seagreen]
the[vbcol=seagreen]
throughout[vbcol=seagreen]
spindles[vbcol=seagreen]
>|||Dear Uri,
Thank you for your advice. However, I am new to RAID array. I would like to
know the underlying reason to put the log on RAID 1 and data on RAID 5.
On the other hand, should we put the Database and Transaction log backup on
RAID 5 array ?
Thank you again.
"Uri Dimant" <urid@.iscar.co.il> wrote in message
news:uQhEZ3kdFHA.1136@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Stephen
> Most of SQL Server DBA/Programmers ( yep if the budget does not permit to
> buy RAID 10&1) put the log on
> RAID1 device and data on RAID-5
> (this option is appropriate if the writes activites are moderate)
>
> Note: The appropriate decision depends on your perfomance charctiristics
> and fault tolerance needs.
>
>
> "Stephen" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:%23zfTGykdFHA.1136@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> mirrored
> the
> throughout
> spindles
>|||Stepfen
I'd recommend you buy "Inside SQL Server 2000" written by Kalen Delaney (See
topic about RAID solutions)
"Stephen" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:e2dG$6kdFHA.3040@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Dear Uri,
> Thank you for your advice. However, I am new to RAID array. I would like
to
> know the underlying reason to put the log on RAID 1 and data on RAID 5.
> On the other hand, should we put the Database and Transaction log backup
on
> RAID 5 array ?
> Thank you again.
>
> "Uri Dimant" <urid@.iscar.co.il> wrote in message
> news:uQhEZ3kdFHA.1136@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
to[vbcol=seagreen]
charctiristics[vbcol=seagreen]
to[vbcol=seagreen]
>|||Stephen wrote:
> Dear Uri,
> Thank you for your advice. However, I am new to RAID array. I would
> like to know the underlying reason to put the log on RAID 1 and data
> on RAID 5.
> On the other hand, should we put the Database and Transaction log
> backup on RAID 5 array ?
>
I didn't think RAID 5 was one of your installed options given you only
had 4 local drives...
In any case, for small and medium sized databases with a low percentage
of writes, RAID 5 is an inexpensive solution. RAID 5 writes data very
slowly, so it's only appropriate for data files. Transaction logs and
tempdb should reside on a mirrored set (which you have). It's best for
performance to keep data and t-logs on different drives, which are also
separate from the OS. In your environment, you have a SAN (J), and 2
local mirrored sets (C and D).
I would recommend you use C for the OS and applications like SQL Server.
Use D for the t-logs and tempdb, and use the SAN for the data.
Everything needs to backed up in some fashion.
David Gugick
Quest Software
www.imceda.com
www.quest.com|||This website has a good intro to RAID levels and the basic pros & cons
(even if they are basically trying to sell you their products):
http://www.acnc.com/raid.html
(for those that can't afford Kalen's book _Inside SQL Server_, which in
an excellent book that I thoroughly recommend)
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Stephen wrote:

>Dear Uri,
>Thank you for your advice. However, I am new to RAID array. I would like t
o
>know the underlying reason to put the log on RAID 1 and data on RAID 5.
>On the other hand, should we put the Database and Transaction log backup on
>RAID 5 array ?
>Thank you again.
>
>"Uri Dimant" <urid@.iscar.co.il> wrote in message
>news:uQhEZ3kdFHA.1136@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>
>
>sql

Monday, March 19, 2012

Locate backup file - can't see other drives

In MS SQL 2005 when you select "Restore Database" and click "From
Device", you get a directory explorer where you can select a backup
file. In that explorer window ("Locate Backup File") I can't see any
other drives than the one where my MS SQL Server is installed.
Is it just my system or is this by design?
Thanks for any ideas!
It could be that your SQL Server is clustered and you're seeing only the
disks on which SQL Server has a dependency.
Tom
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
SQL Server MVP
Toronto, ON Canada
"lanfear" <v_koski@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183726609.006262.23360@.q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
In MS SQL 2005 when you select "Restore Database" and click "From
Device", you get a directory explorer where you can select a backup
file. In that explorer window ("Locate Backup File") I can't see any
other drives than the one where my MS SQL Server is installed.
Is it just my system or is this by design?
Thanks for any ideas!
|||Hi
"lanfear" wrote:

> In MS SQL 2005 when you select "Restore Database" and click "From
> Device", you get a directory explorer where you can select a backup
> file. In that explorer window ("Locate Backup File") I can't see any
> other drives than the one where my MS SQL Server is installed.
> Is it just my system or is this by design?
> Thanks for any ideas!
>
Normally the dialog would default to a location and you could browse from
there depending on your permissions to see the directories. You could try
typing the path in yourself. With a cluster you would only see the drives
that have been tagged as cluster resources.
John
|||Are the other drives in question local? I
Anthony E. Castro - MCDBA
"lanfear" wrote:

> In MS SQL 2005 when you select "Restore Database" and click "From
> Device", you get a directory explorer where you can select a backup
> file. In that explorer window ("Locate Backup File") I can't see any
> other drives than the one where my MS SQL Server is installed.
> Is it just my system or is this by design?
> Thanks for any ideas!
>
|||Wow, bullseye! It's a two node cluster where only the E drive is in
the resource group. I suppose there isn't a way to have other drives
displayed when it's a clustered service.
Thanks a lot for the fast reply, now I don't have to scratch my head
anymore. Thanks John & Anthony aswell.
/lf
On Jul 6, 3:23 pm, "Tom Moreau" <t...@.dont.spam.me.cips.ca> wrote:
> It could be that your SQL Server is clustered and you're seeing only the
> disks on which SQL Server has a dependency.
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Toronto, ON Canada
> "lanfear" <v_ko...@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1183726609.006262.23360@.q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> In MS SQL 2005 when you select "Restore Database" and click "From
> Device", you get a directory explorer where you can select a backup
> file. In that explorer window ("Locate Backup File") I can't see any
> other drives than the one where my MS SQL Server is installed.
> Is it just my system or is this by design?
> Thanks for any ideas!
|||Just got back from vacation - sorry for the late follow-up. I don't think
there is a way to get that in SSMS.
That said, I'm concerned that there is only one disk dependency - drive E: -
for your clustered instance. Typically, you have one disk for data and
another for logs.
Tom
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
SQL Server MVP
Toronto, ON Canada
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
"lanfear" <v_koski@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183732767.641961.258190@.q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
Wow, bullseye! It's a two node cluster where only the E drive is in
the resource group. I suppose there isn't a way to have other drives
displayed when it's a clustered service.
Thanks a lot for the fast reply, now I don't have to scratch my head
anymore. Thanks John & Anthony aswell.
/lf
On Jul 6, 3:23 pm, "Tom Moreau" <t...@.dont.spam.me.cips.ca> wrote:
> It could be that your SQL Server is clustered and you're seeing only the
> disks on which SQL Server has a dependency.
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Toronto, ON Canada
> "lanfear" <v_ko...@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1183726609.006262.23360@.q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> In MS SQL 2005 when you select "Restore Database" and click "From
> Device", you get a directory explorer where you can select a backup
> file. In that explorer window ("Locate Backup File") I can't see any
> other drives than the one where my MS SQL Server is installed.
> Is it just my system or is this by design?
> Thanks for any ideas!

Locate backup file - can't see other drives

In MS SQL 2005 when you select "Restore Database" and click "From
Device", you get a directory explorer where you can select a backup
file. In that explorer window ("Locate Backup File") I can't see any
other drives than the one where my MS SQL Server is installed.
Is it just my system or is this by design?
Thanks for any ideas!It could be that your SQL Server is clustered and you're seeing only the
disks on which SQL Server has a dependency.
Tom
----
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
SQL Server MVP
Toronto, ON Canada
"lanfear" <v_koski@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183726609.006262.23360@.q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
In MS SQL 2005 when you select "Restore Database" and click "From
Device", you get a directory explorer where you can select a backup
file. In that explorer window ("Locate Backup File") I can't see any
other drives than the one where my MS SQL Server is installed.
Is it just my system or is this by design?
Thanks for any ideas!|||Hi
"lanfear" wrote:

> In MS SQL 2005 when you select "Restore Database" and click "From
> Device", you get a directory explorer where you can select a backup
> file. In that explorer window ("Locate Backup File") I can't see any
> other drives than the one where my MS SQL Server is installed.
> Is it just my system or is this by design?
> Thanks for any ideas!
>
Normally the dialog would default to a location and you could browse from
there depending on your permissions to see the directories. You could try
typing the path in yourself. With a cluster you would only see the drives
that have been tagged as cluster resources.
John|||Are the other drives in question local? I
--
Anthony E. Castro - MCDBA
"lanfear" wrote:

> In MS SQL 2005 when you select "Restore Database" and click "From
> Device", you get a directory explorer where you can select a backup
> file. In that explorer window ("Locate Backup File") I can't see any
> other drives than the one where my MS SQL Server is installed.
> Is it just my system or is this by design?
> Thanks for any ideas!
>|||Wow, bullseye! It's a two node cluster where only the E drive is in
the resource group. I suppose there isn't a way to have other drives
displayed when it's a clustered service.
Thanks a lot for the fast reply, now I don't have to scratch my head
anymore. Thanks John & Anthony aswell.
/lf
On Jul 6, 3:23 pm, "Tom Moreau" <t...@.dont.spam.me.cips.ca> wrote:
> It could be that your SQL Server is clustered and you're seeing only the
> disks on which SQL Server has a dependency.
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Toronto, ON Canada
> "lanfear" <v_ko...@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1183726609.006262.23360@.q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> In MS SQL 2005 when you select "Restore Database" and click "From
> Device", you get a directory explorer where you can select a backup
> file. In that explorer window ("Locate Backup File") I can't see any
> other drives than the one where my MS SQL Server is installed.
> Is it just my system or is this by design?
> Thanks for any ideas!|||Just got back from vacation - sorry for the late follow-up. I don't think
there is a way to get that in SSMS.
That said, I'm concerned that there is only one disk dependency - drive E: -
for your clustered instance. Typically, you have one disk for data and
another for logs.
Tom
----
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
SQL Server MVP
Toronto, ON Canada
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
"lanfear" <v_koski@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183732767.641961.258190@.q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
Wow, bullseye! It's a two node cluster where only the E drive is in
the resource group. I suppose there isn't a way to have other drives
displayed when it's a clustered service.
Thanks a lot for the fast reply, now I don't have to scratch my head
anymore. Thanks John & Anthony aswell.
/lf
On Jul 6, 3:23 pm, "Tom Moreau" <t...@.dont.spam.me.cips.ca> wrote:
> It could be that your SQL Server is clustered and you're seeing only the
> disks on which SQL Server has a dependency.
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Toronto, ON Canada
> "lanfear" <v_ko...@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1183726609.006262.23360@.q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> In MS SQL 2005 when you select "Restore Database" and click "From
> Device", you get a directory explorer where you can select a backup
> file. In that explorer window ("Locate Backup File") I can't see any
> other drives than the one where my MS SQL Server is installed.
> Is it just my system or is this by design?
> Thanks for any ideas!

Locate backup file - can't see other drives

In MS SQL 2005 when you select "Restore Database" and click "From
Device", you get a directory explorer where you can select a backup
file. In that explorer window ("Locate Backup File") I can't see any
other drives than the one where my MS SQL Server is installed.
Is it just my system or is this by design?
Thanks for any ideas!It could be that your SQL Server is clustered and you're seeing only the
disks on which SQL Server has a dependency.
--
Tom
----
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
SQL Server MVP
Toronto, ON Canada
"lanfear" <v_koski@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183726609.006262.23360@.q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
In MS SQL 2005 when you select "Restore Database" and click "From
Device", you get a directory explorer where you can select a backup
file. In that explorer window ("Locate Backup File") I can't see any
other drives than the one where my MS SQL Server is installed.
Is it just my system or is this by design?
Thanks for any ideas!|||Hi
"lanfear" wrote:
> In MS SQL 2005 when you select "Restore Database" and click "From
> Device", you get a directory explorer where you can select a backup
> file. In that explorer window ("Locate Backup File") I can't see any
> other drives than the one where my MS SQL Server is installed.
> Is it just my system or is this by design?
> Thanks for any ideas!
>
Normally the dialog would default to a location and you could browse from
there depending on your permissions to see the directories. You could try
typing the path in yourself. With a cluster you would only see the drives
that have been tagged as cluster resources.
John|||Are the other drives in question local? I
--
Anthony E. Castro - MCDBA
"lanfear" wrote:
> In MS SQL 2005 when you select "Restore Database" and click "From
> Device", you get a directory explorer where you can select a backup
> file. In that explorer window ("Locate Backup File") I can't see any
> other drives than the one where my MS SQL Server is installed.
> Is it just my system or is this by design?
> Thanks for any ideas!
>|||Wow, bullseye! :) It's a two node cluster where only the E drive is in
the resource group. I suppose there isn't a way to have other drives
displayed when it's a clustered service.
Thanks a lot for the fast reply, now I don't have to scratch my head
anymore. Thanks John & Anthony aswell.
/lf
On Jul 6, 3:23 pm, "Tom Moreau" <t...@.dont.spam.me.cips.ca> wrote:
> It could be that your SQL Server is clustered and you're seeing only the
> disks on which SQL Server has a dependency.
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Toronto, ON Canada
> "lanfear" <v_ko...@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1183726609.006262.23360@.q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> In MS SQL 2005 when you select "Restore Database" and click "From
> Device", you get a directory explorer where you can select a backup
> file. In that explorer window ("Locate Backup File") I can't see any
> other drives than the one where my MS SQL Server is installed.
> Is it just my system or is this by design?
> Thanks for any ideas!|||Just got back from vacation - sorry for the late follow-up. I don't think
there is a way to get that in SSMS.
That said, I'm concerned that there is only one disk dependency - drive E: -
for your clustered instance. Typically, you have one disk for data and
another for logs.
--
Tom
----
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
SQL Server MVP
Toronto, ON Canada
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
"lanfear" <v_koski@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183732767.641961.258190@.q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
Wow, bullseye! :) It's a two node cluster where only the E drive is in
the resource group. I suppose there isn't a way to have other drives
displayed when it's a clustered service.
Thanks a lot for the fast reply, now I don't have to scratch my head
anymore. Thanks John & Anthony aswell.
/lf
On Jul 6, 3:23 pm, "Tom Moreau" <t...@.dont.spam.me.cips.ca> wrote:
> It could be that your SQL Server is clustered and you're seeing only the
> disks on which SQL Server has a dependency.
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Toronto, ON Canada
> "lanfear" <v_ko...@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1183726609.006262.23360@.q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> In MS SQL 2005 when you select "Restore Database" and click "From
> Device", you get a directory explorer where you can select a backup
> file. In that explorer window ("Locate Backup File") I can't see any
> other drives than the one where my MS SQL Server is installed.
> Is it just my system or is this by design?
> Thanks for any ideas!

Friday, March 9, 2012

local variable in select statement

Hello to all,
are there that have already used a select like the
following to catch backup history rows from different SQL
server defined as linked server
select *
from @.my_system.msdb.dbo.sysdbmaintplan_history
where .........
the local variable @...... set using a cursor seams to be
not sintactically correct.
Any idea
Thanks marinoYou need to use dynamic sql if the servername changes
e.g.
declare @.cmd nvarchar(500)
set @.cmd = N'select * from ' + @.my_system +
N'.msdb.dbo.sysdbmaintplan_history'
exec sp_executesql @.cmd
For more on dynamic sql see
http://www.algonet.se/~sommar/dynamic_sql.html
--
HTH
Jasper Smith (SQL Server MVP)
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community for SQL Server professionals -
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"Marino Prandini" <marino_prandini@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:181101c3aeb4$3af029b0$a601280a@.phx.gbl...
Hello to all,
are there that have already used a select like the
following to catch backup history rows from different SQL
server defined as linked server
select *
from @.my_system.msdb.dbo.sysdbmaintplan_history
where .........
the local variable @...... set using a cursor seams to be
not sintactically correct.
Any idea
Thanks marino

Friday, February 24, 2012

Local copy of Remote Database?

Is there are direct and simply way to backup a database hosted on a
remote machine to my local workstation without involving sharing out
the hardware(eg: A:\ or some folder in local hdd) or even creating new
accounts which has the admin rights?If you are taking a backup, the backup path is always related to the
server, so you either can backup on a local drive OR backup the data on
a network share (UNC) where both machines have access to. Another copy
of a local database can be done using the DTS wizrad and copying all
objects and data via SQL Server objects copy.
HTH, Jens Suessmeyer.
http://www.sqlserver2005.de
--|||You can use net use to map a drive and use it for backup.
Regards
Amish Shah

Local copy of Remote Database?

Is there are direct and simply way to backup a database hosted on a
remote machine to my local workstation without involving sharing out
the hardware(eg: A:\ or some folder in local hdd) or even creating new
accounts which has the admin rights?If you are taking a backup, the backup path is always related to the
server, so you either can backup on a local drive OR backup the data on
a network share (UNC) where both machines have access to. Another copy
of a local database can be done using the DTS wizrad and copying all
objects and data via SQL Server objects copy.
HTH, Jens Suessmeyer.
--
http://www.sqlserver2005.de
--|||You can use net use to map a drive and use it for backup.
Regards
Amish Shah